RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.1] [Chyos]

kydo420 said:

Is there any way to do Melissa's treasure hunt without finishing the chalice mission?

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I can't test it, because all my saves are past it, but I am pretty sure you can not. Reason being that you can't get a new map without either finding the treasure or telling her you can't find it, and buying a new map. The chalice map being the only one you can't tell her that you can't find it, so you can't buy a new map.

(The ultimate consequence of what you do with the chalice isn't in the game yet, it changes with how you deal with the thugs, but there aren't any real consequences yet. I always destroy it, and then my mercs just show up whenever I chose to walk up to the thugs harassing Melissa.)

Chii said:

Chyos is keeping it under wraps but I can't wait to find out if with the introduction and conclusion of the goblin village and its story it will also shed any light about what happened to the dwarves.
And as much as I'd hate to see this drag out other potential updates, I'd love to support the underdog snikka (and it's a little sad seeing her last in the goblins vote lol)

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A man of good taste. I also prefer Snikka, though my vote was changed to Ugotha for some reason during the poll (not as if my vote would have made a difference against her mom ). Hopefully we get to see content for her soon.

So when will work on Krilic update start .
After this ?

Ntrsugar said:

So when will work on Krilic update start .
After this ?

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Nobody knows. Chyros' focus has been on another part of his world map for a while now, namely on orcs and goblins.
And Chyros is obviously a perfectionist, with a lot of love for detail. He really does a good job of getting the most out of his ideas. I think the region in and around Kirlic will also be a bigger story in terms of the Main story. And he'll probably start that when he's completely finished with the other stuff. I wouldn't expect it so soon

Also, I think the answer to that is a lot more open then it appears. Kate and Emily's quest at the Old Boar is pretty short, but there actual quest regarding Krilic for it has updated very little in the last couple of years. (Like only one or two steps.)

It's only moved a few steps since the addition of Pia, Carmen and Bjorn. I would assume at least a couple of more updates towards getting to Krilic before actually getting to Krilic (like the Old Boar) and not every update including something towards Krilic.

exazubi said:

Nobody knows. Chyros' focus has been on another part of his world map for a while now, namely on orcs and goblins.
And Chyros is obviously a perfectionist, with a lot of love for detail. He really does a good job of getting the most out of his ideas. I think the region in and around Kirlic will also be a bigger story in terms of the Main story. And he'll probably start that when he's completely finished with the other stuff. I wouldn't expect it so soon

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Technically we do, since it's a part of the voting system.
Right now Arianna (meaning the cult) is on the lead and kirlic follows behind.

Apartment817 said:

I can't test it, because all my saves are past it, but I am pretty sure you can not. Reason being that you can't get a new map without either finding the treasure or telling her you can't find it, and buying a new map. The chalice map being the only one you can't tell her that you can't find it, so you can't buy a new map.

(The ultimate consequence of what you do with the chalice isn't in the game yet, it changes with how you deal with the thugs, but there aren't any real consequences yet. I always destroy it, and then my mercs just show up whenever I chose to walk up to the thugs harassing Melissa.)

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I can confirm this. You'll need to make a choice about what do do with the chalice before you can continue searching for more chests and complete Melissa's story within Arenfield. (A new quest will open up where you are tasked to accompany Melissa to the university which is as expected greyed out).

Started a new game just to find out that i have a Iron Dagger in my inventory from the get go, weird bug/feature.

How far along is the game in terms of its completion progress?

Chii said:

Technically we do, since it's a part of the voting system.
Right now Arianna (meaning the cult) is on the lead and kirlic follows behind.

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What does "voting system" mean? Does it mean that it is basically already decided what the game should be like and what content it will have, but the patreons decides with his vote what will be developed first? Or does it mean that there is no script and the developers are completely focused on the wishes of the game? I hope that the first idea is the case.

The games I know, where the developers actually try to completely focus on the wishes of the players have, in the end, if one ever was finished, been pretty much useless across the board. Precisely because most players are only fixated on their specific fetish and have no sense of good storytelling. I know games that were completely ruined by vanilla, where the story never really got going, in others the young girl/homeless guy fetish prevailed, and many more (I still don't understand why so many people find it hot when a really hot looking woman spreads her legs for unkempt, ugly and smelly bums. Or young good-looking girls who let themselves be fucked by "great-grandfather" who is just fat, old and ugly and whose body has deteriorated so much that he actually belongs in a hospice)

With developers who focus too much on the fans Wishes, a specific fetish sooner or later takes over the entire game. And nothing really good has ever come out of that. I hope that Chyros stays true to himself here. Because so far he's done a good job. There are many Li with really good, different storylines and a lot of variety. There's something for every taste. And that's one of the things that makes this game so successful.

exazubi said:

What does "voting system" mean?

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Chyos has a list of what he wants to work on and posts a poll with 7-8 options where the patreons/subscribestars will vote on what gets worked on next. Votes will bleed to the next poll and he continues adding a new option every poll or so.
Chyos has shown to bend here and there based on users wishes but he has a very solid idea on what the game is/will be.

Chii said:

Chyos has a list of what he wants to work on and posts a poll with 7-8 options where the patreons/subscribestars will vote on what gets worked on next. Votes will bleed to the next poll and he continues adding a new option every poll or so.
Chyos has shown to bend here and there based on users wishes but he has a very solid idea on what the game is/will be.

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This way is good and right. I'm glad to hear that. That's a developer after my taste

Chii said:

Technically we do, since it's a part of the voting system.
Right now Arianna (meaning the cult) is on the lead and kirlic follows behind.

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The cult story will be connected to Krilic ultimately.
I really hope we can get back to the main quest as soon as possible.

Can anyone help with all the bonus scenes and how to find them? Also, I think there should be a reference in the walkthrough or at least something posted in the op to make it easier to find.

Katherine's Bonus Scene ???

theola said:

Can anyone help with all the bonus scenes and how to find them? Also, I think there should be a reference in the walkthrough or at least something posted in the op to make it easier to find.

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You'll have to be patient. I'm working on my own walkthrough, which I'll publish here at the end. And I plan to include all the events that exist in it. At the moment I'm still working with an outdated version of the game. I recently published a teaser: the complete walkthrough of the Kate storyline for the outdated game version 0.5.3.5. In some months, when I'm done with that, I'll continue working with the latest built of the game. Of course, I don't know how big the full version will be in the end, nor how many years it will take. But yes, there will be a full walkthrough at some point.

Until then, you have no choice. You have to play the game yourself and try to find what you are looking for. At the moment the official TT has to suffice, which indeed is not very good. Or you can ask specific questions here in the thread in the hope that someone can help you. But if you do that, always ask for specific Li and specific scenes that you read about in the official WT. Only then can someone really give you information.

Android 93 said:

Katherine's Bonus Scene ???

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Which with Tia or Lyvia?


Lyvia actually has a couple with her.

Like any scene, especially the most corrupted ones, there is a checklist of things needed to unlock them. The web walkthrough details both.

There is a point where when given the chance to interrupt, don't.

In the walkthrough it says " If you do that again the scene will get a bit more intense (if you allow it)". You "allow it" by not interrupting.

exazubi said:

You'll have to be patient. I'm working on my own walkthrough, which I'll publish here at the end. And I plan to include all the events that exist in it. At the moment I'm still working with an outdated version of the game. I recently published a teaser: the complete walkthrough of the Kate storyline for the outdated game version 0.5.3.5. In some months, when I'm done with that, I'll continue working with the latest built of the game. Of course, I don't know how big the full version will be in the end, nor how many years it will take. But yes, there will be a full walkthrough at some point.

Until then, you have no choice. You have to play the game yourself and try to find what you are looking for. At the moment the official TT has to suffice, which indeed is not very good. Or you can ask specific questions here in the thread in the hope that someone can help you. But if you do that, always ask for specific Li and specific scenes that you read about in the official WT. Only then can someone really give you information.

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Why are you playing an outdated version? Doesn't that give you more work? In that when a quest is updated / changed you are writing to an old way of doing things that no one can use.

I am not seeing a positive to finishing an WT to an old version, instead of just transferring your save as updates come out.

Apartment817 said:

Why are you playing an outdated version? Doesn't that give you more work? In that when a quest is updated / changed you are writing to an old way of doing things that no one can use.

I am not seeing a positive to finishing an WT to an old version, instead of just transferring your save as updates come out.

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Firstly, I started with the old version before I had to interrupt it involuntarily. In the meantime I have resumed the work. I was already pretty far along, but didn't have a good, clear design. This problem has now been solved and I have found a solution. Now I'm gradually transferring the already completed Li into this new design. Then I'll take care of the ones that are still missing. Even in the old stuff there is still content that I don't know yet. I want to finish it completely first. So that I can then jump into the new stuff in anticipation, like a child at Christmas

Secondly, it doesn't really matter. Even if I were to work with the latest version now, it would be out of date again in a few months, since the game gets updates quite regularly. And since I work really meticulously, trying every single decision, I'm only making slow progress. So I'll always be a little behind anyway. But it's not a big problem, because every new update doesn't reinvent the wheel. To date, it has never happened that an existing Li has been completely changed. There are changes, mostly additions, but the old content that is already there will not disappear. So if I know a route, I just have to carry on where I left off. And if I already know a route in detail, I only need to look at the current official walkthrough and I can immediately see what is new and different. The further work is therefore much faster than if I were working completely blind.

I also follow the thread here nearly every day with great interest. And I keep seeing questions from players about content that was already available in the outdated version, but that they still can't find. So my help is useful, even if I'm not up to date.

How and When, i am already tried so many time, Oh MAN NOW I AM A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE OF THAT KITCHEN.. pls hlp

Kunju said:

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How and When, i am already tried so many time, Oh MAN NOW I AM A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE OF THAT KITCHEN.. pls hlp

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IIRC you should:

1-Progress Claire's story to the point where you and her are fucking
2-Work with her in the kitchen
3-After you have worked, talk to her again and she will suggest some fun in the cellar
4-After the scene, you will see Thomas passing through a locked door in the cellar

This should progress the quest with new steps. If you still are kinda lost, I suggest you check the walkthrough and you will find a better explanation.