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| The fact that I've been absent looks scummy af xD Sorry, rl was complicated (I'm also a ghost in the other game I'm playing ;-;) First things first, now we know the setup which is great news because we know what kind of roles mafia has. I wasn't expecting logic's flip I'll be honest. I was getting town vibes from him but maybe is because he defended me quite a bit? Eufie's flip on the other hand was pretty obvious. I think she was my only townread because of her claimed of having a pr at the beginning of the game. So the SK is the one that kill logic right? then why nobody died on N1? - Also 3 scums seems okay for the amount of players . That means we have two more to go. @CorruptedPurity So I voted for Abu last time and now he is voting for me? omgus much? I wasn't trying to counterattacked you btw, I didn't feel threaten at all... |
| @Soren theoretically speaking, if the serial killer does not submit a name for the night kill, will it be randomized or not happen at all? |
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| I'm still catching up but I think CP is tpr, what do you guys think? |
Ruu said: I'm still catching up but I think CP is tpr, what do you guys think? If this is a prod at the other ongoing game, it's not funny and I'm very frustrated right now... |
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CorruptedPurity said: Claire did this to me when she was scum... Another tell?Ruu said: I'm still catching up but I think CP is tpr, what do you guys think? If this is a prod at the other ongoing game, it's not funny and I'm very frustrated right now... |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: CorruptedPurity said: Claire did this to me when she was scum... Another tell?If this is a prod at the other ongoing game, it's not funny and I'm very frustrated right now... I'm lost what are you guys talking about? What other game? I need context! I was rereading the thread and I got that idea while going through CP's posts... |
| vote:Oyasumi_Rosie Since the beginning Logic and Rosie looked very protective of each other but trying to make it look like fluffy posts. She also talked about the possibilty of only having VTs which makes no sense. Like she was trying to stop talking about pr and didn't care to read the op with the matrix and all. Oyasumi_Rosie said: AbuHumaid said: Not me, and probably not Logic. IDK, he has to lynch a few town first to prove himselfalright guys, let's be real. Who's the scum? Oyasumi_Rosie said: Gruffin said: Hmm. Okay. Yeah. I just have a gut feeling on him right now. Nothing more to add. Whoops, guess I wasn't clear in the way I worded that. I mean to say that I don't see anything to make me lean either way on him. Mm, okay. How about we talk about Ruu, then? What do you think of my observation in post 161? Agree/disagree/anything to add? I think that you guys might be excepting to much from this game, esp ones that is supposed to get people interested in playing. Personally, I think all the roles would be vanilla(the don't have any special powers), but even if I didn't I think hit hit men(scum aligned role that can kill others, usually with a limit) or body guards(can prevent players from being killed. are way more likely than a God father(player will appear town aligned if investigated by a cop role). But that is just what I think based on the the pm I was sent. logic340 said: She is voting Grapefruit though...lol. Seriously though Rosie votes Grapefruit at the beginning of every game whether he is in it or not. She is very fluffy especially D1. I love her antics and unless you can pitch a good case for scum Rosie I probably wont be voting here D1 because this is just how Rosie is and more importantly she makes the game so much more fun (imo ofc). @CorruptedPurity can we work together to keep Rosie alive at least for another phase? You know how we do. logic340 said: Wont Lynch: Rosie - She's fluffy but that doesn't make her scum. It doesn't make her town either I am neutral but I feel she will be good for the game at least another day. Sidenotes; @Gruffin - just wanted to say that for me #172 is still a fluff post. Saying "who is scum then" is not a real question. Gruffin said: logic340 said: I like AbuHumaid's 172. It reads as "Okay guys, let's cut out the fluff and solve the game" when as scum he could have been content to allow the fluff to continue.In regards to Ruu my reaction was Role Fishing? But looking closer is nor rely directed at anyone and it's a mafia role. I didn't think and possible scum TMI but that ides is something to take note of. I like your questions to the newbies do you have any thoughts on them so far? I think the roles are were RNG since I got Sailor Mars like I requested XD (Lol probably on the RNG thing) @Gruffin Abu's response to my posts about possible scenarios after the no-kill on N1 caught my eye. That was what I was talking about when I posted my reasons for voting him the other day. I'm not getting town vibes from him and also his questions for Soren about "do the mafia players know each other?" seemed like he was playing the newbie card when he already said he had played mafia before. It was very odd. I'm not buying his act. So for me the other two mafias are rosie and Abu. |
CorruptedPurity said: Ruu said: I'm still catching up but I think CP is tpr, what do you guys think? If this is a prod at the other ongoing game, it's not funny and I'm very frustrated right now... I just open BSD mafia! I didn't know your role xD |
Ruu said: vote:Oyasumi_Rosie Since the beginning Logic and Rosie looked very protective of each other but trying to make it look like fluffy posts. She also talked about the possibilty of only having VTs which makes no sense. Like she was trying to stop talking about pr and didn't care to read the op with the matrix and all. Oyasumi_Rosie said: Not me, and probably not Logic. IDK, he has to lynch a few town first to prove himself Oyasumi_Rosie said: Hmm. Okay. Yeah. I just have a gut feeling on him right now. Nothing more to add. I think that you guys might be excepting to much from this game, esp ones that is supposed to get people interested in playing. Personally, I think all the roles would be vanilla(the don't have any special powers), but even if I didn't I think hit hit men(scum aligned role that can kill others, usually with a limit) or body guards(can prevent players from being killed. are way more likely than a God father(player will appear town aligned if investigated by a cop role). But that is just what I think based on the the pm I was sent. logic340 said: She is voting Grapefruit though...lol. Seriously though Rosie votes Grapefruit at the beginning of every game whether he is in it or not. She is very fluffy especially D1. I love her antics and unless you can pitch a good case for scum Rosie I probably wont be voting here D1 because this is just how Rosie is and more importantly she makes the game so much more fun (imo ofc). @CorruptedPurity can we work together to keep Rosie alive at least for another phase? You know how we do. logic340 said: Wont Lynch: Rosie - She's fluffy but that doesn't make her scum. It doesn't make her town either I am neutral but I feel she will be good for the game at least another day. Sidenotes; @Gruffin - just wanted to say that for me #172 is still a fluff post. Saying "who is scum then" is not a real question. Gruffin said: I like AbuHumaid's 172. It reads as "Okay guys, let's cut out the fluff and solve the game" when as scum he could have been content to allow the fluff to continue. (Lol probably on the RNG thing) @Gruffin Abu's response to my posts about possible scenarios after the no-kill on N1 caught my eye. That was what I was talking about when I posted my reasons for voting him the other day. I'm not getting town vibes from him and also his questions for Soren about "do the mafia players know each other?" seemed like he was playing the newbie card when he already said he had played mafia before. It was very odd. I'm not buying his act. So for me the other two mafias are rosie and Abu. Sure, but then why would I vote logic at the end of day one? Do you think I was busing him? |
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| Day 1 Logic Interactions Logic starts out the Day RVS voting for Floofs and greeting the other players. The first vote on Logic is Yugure’s post here: Slightly unaligned vibes here because of how cheeky/confrontational it sounds. I don’t think a newer scum player would have voted their buddy in that manner. He then fluffs with Ruu at the start of page 2. It’s all soft banter that could be easily faked, so not really AI. Actually, I would sum up the majority of his interactions this way, because he spends a lot of time either going "I could see this one way, but there's also..." in reads or asking general questions like, "What are your thoughts?" The only person I seen him push was me, and that doesn't even help because I already know my alignment. logic340 said: He throws a softball at Rosie here and Rosie throws it right back.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Ahhh....the memories.You right, I should tell them about the time I killed more players than the actual scum team in Fairy Tale. Or how I was tunneled to depression in Lover's Quarrel. Now down to business....are you scum? logic340 said: ^ Post about AbuHumaid. He's got a couple of moments like this in regards to Ruu as well. NAI. >_> it didn't read like that to me but I can see where your coming from. It is s little thing but definitely something to note. He seems to bash Eufie with questions in 224 May be an indicator on how he treats townies? A vote from Liz. Same with Yugure, I’m getting slight unaligned vibes because it would be pretty odd for a newer scum player to vote their buddy first thing. logic340 said: I don't know what to make of this, to be quite honest. But I think it's worth noting.Mwiep said: I believe that he feels his question can be used to narrow down members of the mafia. I also can see Gruffin side where it could be potential role fishing the question then becomes would scum Purity be so direct? I know Rosie, Ruu, Purity, Coromandel, and Gruffin so there's not a lot more getting to know them I could do. As for the other 7 I've already started getting to know Eufie and now I'm getting to know you XDYeah I get that it was a question xD It seems kind of strange to me for giving such a thing priority over getting to know the other players playingstyle. Our first priority has to be to discover members of the mafia :P logic340 said: Not sure if whiteknighting CP or defending buddy.CorruptedPurity - He's active, he seems to be scum hunting, his matrix question could be role fishing but I'm willing to bet against that for now. The answers will be relevant later for those who don't see the purpose in it now. Gruffin - No sure what to make of the quick vote on CP. I understand where she is coming from but the quick vote without digging a little bit seems forced to me. Will have to see how things progress. logic340 said: ^ Buddying of some sort? idkShe is voting Grapefruit though...lol. Seriously though Rosie votes Grapefruit at the beginning of every game whether he is in it or not. She is very fluffy especially D1. I love her antics and unless you can pitch a good case for scum Rosie I probably wont be voting here D1 because this is just how Rosie is and more importantly she makes the game so much more fun (imo ofc). @CorruptedPurity can we work together to keep Rosie alive at least for another phase? You know how we do. liz said: Strengthens my non-aligned vibes on liz/logic@logic340 - what is the point of trying to bring up previous games? i don't really see the point, then again could just be my lack of experience also seems like you are trying to cover for CP... logic340 said: Spewed Eufie as town, but we already knew that.You are a new player and I can definitely see that in your posts. Now the newer players I have played with that were lost as town feel more like you and liz. Sollux is an good example of this (for those who have played with him). I get the feeling your questions are more from new town player rather than new mafia player. The nature of your questions and the way you rationalize things in the thread just seems so pure and town. You appear to be trying to figure things out land I don't see you trying to lead people to a conclusion. Which I would expect from mafia to an extent. Floofs said: Slight unaligned.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Every role has a win condition. Basically it's what you as a player must do to win. If you are town, then you wincon is to get rid of mafia. If you are mafia it is to outnumber town. And if you are a trp, it would depend in the role you got. On day 1 shouldn't everyone's objective be to lynch the mafia since the mafia will be pretending to be the town. Logic340 said, "While I will be playing to my win condition" Why wouldn't logic use My? Could this be a possible slip up for a mafia member? Oyasumi_Rosie said: I think it’s safe to say that Rosie isn’t scumbuddies with Logic because of this vote. It puts Logic in the lead really close to phase change. I believe Coro already pointed this out, haha.vote: logic I'll catch up to the thread now and post responses before going through Day 2. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sure, but then why would I vote logic at the end of day one? Do you think I was busing him? yep. I think a last min vote on town would make you look more scummy so you went for the safest way out. If logic flips mafia they you are on the clear. |
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AbuHumaid said: ^ lolCorruptedPurity said: Has to be setup 1 from the flips. That means the extra kill is unaccounted for, that means we have a serial killer within our midst ladies and gents. sorry for sounding dense, but how exactly did you know that the third party is a serial killer? Inb4 Abu flips SK. |
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| @Ruu And what about CP? He refuses to lynch me D1 for similar reason. And they have been doing it for the past couple of games, since kitty. Not that it makes any better, but still. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: @Ruu And what about CP? He refuses to lynch me D1 for similar reason. And they have been doing it for the past couple of games, since kitty. Not that it makes any better, but still. I already talk about what I think cp's role is. I'm not seeing a cp/logic team after analysing the thread. How do you feel about Abu then? |
Ruu said: Yeah, that was a gut reaction to get more opinions going in the thread. I liked his tone when I posted that.@Gruffin - just wanted to say that for me #172 is still a fluff post. Saying "who is scum then" is not a real question. @Gruffin Abu's response to my posts about possible scenarios after the no-kill on N1 caught my eye. That was what I was talking about when I posted my reasons for voting him the other day. I'm not getting town vibes from him and also his questions for Soren about "do the mafia players know each other?" seemed like he was playing the newbie card when he already said he had played mafia before. It was very odd. I'm not buying his act. Okay, thank you for explaining. You do bring up a good point about his question to Soren, though it kind of relies on OOG/past game stuff.So for me the other two mafias are rosie and Abu. |
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| Hm. There is a possibility that she was bussing there, but her lack of a strong case against Logic beforehand makes me think the vote was genuine. Like, nuke-bussing for towncred looks best when you can claim responsibility for not only voting for scum, but for casing them. Occam's Razor says Rosie is just town since she previously reported town vibes from him. |
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Ruu said: He is cute because of how he responed to my teasing, but nothing else right now. Newish player right?Oyasumi_Rosie said: @Ruu And what about CP? He refuses to lynch me D1 for similar reason. And they have been doing it for the past couple of games, since kitty. Not that it makes any better, but still. I already talk about what I think cp's role is. I'm not seeing a cp/logic team after analysing the thread. How do you feel about Abu then? |
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coromandel said: Sorry, I missed this.Interesting that you think Floofs is town. He isn't giving me a clear impression at all. With Floofs it's a gut feeling since I've seen a couple probing questions. He also appears to care about them because he makes sure to follow up on each answer and with sometimes poke the person he's asking to get a response. I'm aware that this is easy stuff to fake, but this is the best I can find when reading his posts. So meh. |
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| Taking a short break. When I get back, I'm going to go over Logic's Day 2 interactions and look through Eufie's posts to see if she hinted at her N1 target. |
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I tried to vote for Ruu but voted too late because I messed up the format. Soren said: When I posted my "time" post this vote was not bolded, meaning it wasn't in the right format and therefore I can't accept it, sorry. I don't know why logic thought I would cause a no lynch though. There were 4 votes for mweip and 2 for ruu. If my vote went through, mweip would have still been lynched. Part of my reason for suspecting ruu was because ruu voted abu for not scum hunting, when they weren't either. Since ruu is an experienced player, I wouldn't think that would do something like this and that they would handle the situation differently. Floofs said: Gruffin said: It's...Not usually something that happens, but I can understand why they did it. To give you the details, I co-hosted a game that ended about two weeks ago called Kitty Mafia which CP and Logic were both in. In this game, town last-minute lynched Rosie Day 1 (Spoiler: she was town) while she wasn't around. In the following Days, the game got pretty tense and a lot of players attributed this to Rosie's absence, because she played very carefree and was able to not take the game so seriously. If you want my take on it, I find it a silly reason to keep someone alive, but since there wasn't an argument against her for why she should be lynched, I can't really fault them for it. Could be scum defense or could be town carrying over feelings from other games, too hard to tell. I like what you're doing here though. It's good that you're questioning things that look out of place like this. I'd like to hear what you have to say on Ruu, because she's caught my attention with her push on AbuHumaid, what do you think the intention was behind her AbuHumaid case in post 572? The vote kind of seems forced. I think Ruu should have done more questioning before voting abu. Ruu could have asked if abu had other thoughts instead of assuming that having an experienced player on the scum team was the only one. I think since abu is a newer player, I would have given him the benefit of the doubt and at least give abu a chance for an explanation. If I look at it from the other side though, Ruu could be using it to put pressure on abu to speak up since he doesn't talk much and force out an explanation especially since they seemed active to scum hunt but hasn't done much yet. @Ruu If I remember correctly (haven't played for several months), in town of salem the jailer cant jail anyone on the first night so it wouldn't help in day 1 this case and they can also execute people. According to mafia wiki "the Jailkeeper may each night put a player in jail, which will protect that player from death, but also prevent them from being able to successfully perform any night actions on that same night" so I don't think it has the roles are exactly the same, but since this is a semi-open setup I guess that would be up to the host. |
| Sorry. Here now. Unfortunately, I'm only caught up to page 12? I think. Eufie kill is unfortunate, though predictable. I skimmed and pretty sure someone said serial killer. But then there was no death night 1, so is there such a thing as Even Night Serial Killer? I'll get back to this later (have to finish up some things) but can I place a sort of random vote still? Hee~ Vote: CorruptedPurity This is the only place where you still live (hugs) |
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| Day 2 Logic Interactions *Note that by now the mafia have had a Night Phase to discuss strategy In this phase, he continues asking general questions along the lines of "What are your thoughts on x?" to a handful of people and explaining his reads without pushing others much. So I'm not getting very many alignment/non-alignment feelings on a large portion of his posts again. What jumps out at me this phase is My/CP's/logic's interaction while discussing EoD1: What's interesting about this is he reacts defensively (pretty standard) and says that CP is mudslinging and slandering, but he does not push or vote him after this is brought up and he eventually opts to go after Rosie instead. I think this could potentially be scum distancing since he danced around CP's accusations instead of committing to a push on him. Vote: CorruptedPurity |
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liz said: Oh man, that's actually a pretty cool idea for future games mwahaha~The bolded part stood out to me, were they possibly planning on switching votes towards the end to maybe avoid suspicion? Something tells me that they planned this thoroughly and i can't shake that thought off. Idk, maybe I'm overthinking this, it just seems too obvious to be true but that could also be a strategy in itself aa-dono said: Sooo we've got a scum flip and we're trying to find the other two. Once you catch up, who do you think Logic's buddies are?Sorry. Here now. Unfortunately, I'm only caught up to page 12? I think. Eufie kill is unfortunate, though predictable. I skimmed and pretty sure someone said serial killer. But then there was no death night 1, so is there such a thing as Even Night Serial Killer? I'll get back to this later (have to finish up some things) but can I place a sort of random vote still? Hee~ Vote: CorruptedPurity This is the only place where you still live (hugs) |
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| Oh whoops. unvote What's the majority this phase? .-. My vote's on CP in spirit right now. |
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Gruffin said: I'm at page 13 and I am content leaving my vote on CP.aa-dono said: Sooo we've got a scum flip and we're trying to find the other two. Once you catch up, who do you think Logic's buddies are?Sorry. Here now. Unfortunately, I'm only caught up to page 12? I think. Eufie kill is unfortunate, though predictable. I skimmed and pretty sure someone said serial killer. But then there was no death night 1, so is there such a thing as Even Night Serial Killer? I'll get back to this later (have to finish up some things) but can I place a sort of random vote still? Hee~ Vote: CorruptedPurity This is the only place where you still live (hugs) I didn't actually relate it to logic, but since logic flip scum, then I think I know who the TPR is, though I don't know if I should say it since we already know that the only possible setup now is No. 1. Meaning, town have 1 investigative role, and one protection. But scum have 1 investigative and 1 overkill. Which make me think that TPR win con might not be bad for us. Probably not a serial killer. (Though we'll see if I change my mind after reading 14 & 15) Eufie sort of out herself as PR early. And it's not difficult to guess which. I saw CP's post asking about set-up as a trap for players. It seemed like making a discussion, but it can also be used to role fish. And if everyone figured out that Eufie was a PR, then obviously mafia did too. Which makes it essential for the other PR to keep himself hidden. However what I noticed was that CP stayed close to Eufie, making her believe that he's the other PR. Getting someone to trust you is good, though this contradicts the need to hide himself. In other words, he's scum. (I probably couldn't correlate my previous sentence with my last, but I think this makes enough sense). |
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aa-dono said: Eh. I was hoping for a more behavioral oriented post. But for the record, someone had to kill logic. We don't have a town killing role and it sure wasn't the mafia who did it.I'm at page 13 and I am content leaving my vote on CP. I didn't actually relate it to logic, but since logic flip scum, then I think I know who the TPR is, though I don't know if I should say it since we already know that the only possible setup now is No. 1. Meaning, town have 1 investigative role, and one protection. But scum have 1 investigative and 1 overkill. Which make me think that TPR win con might not be bad for us. Probably not a serial killer. (Though we'll see if I change my mind after reading 14 & 15) Eufie sort of out herself as PR early. And it's not difficult to guess which. I saw CP's post asking about set-up as a trap for players. It seemed like making a discussion, but it can also be used to role fish. And if everyone figured out that Eufie was a PR, then obviously mafia did too. Which makes it essential for the other PR to keep himself hidden. However what I noticed was that CP stayed close to Eufie, making her believe that he's the other PR. Getting someone to trust you is good, though this contradicts the need to hide himself. In other words, he's scum. (I probably couldn't correlate my previous sentence with my last, but I think this makes enough sense). Oh I see what you're saying, I think. Do you mean that you scumread CP because you think he's pretending to be a PR to gain trust while also going against the expectation that PRs should hide themselves?I'll need to go back and read that part of the thread again but too tired for now. |
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Gruffin said: Oh, you misunderstood my post. I didn't say that TPR did not kill logic.aa-dono said: Eh. I was hoping for a more behavioral oriented post. But for the record, someone had to kill logic. We don't have a town killing role and it sure wasn't the mafia who did it.I'm at page 13 and I am content leaving my vote on CP. I didn't actually relate it to logic, but since logic flip scum, then I think I know who the TPR is, though I don't know if I should say it since we already know that the only possible setup now is No. 1. Meaning, town have 1 investigative role, and one protection. But scum have 1 investigative and 1 overkill. Which make me think that TPR win con might not be bad for us. Probably not a serial killer. (Though we'll see if I change my mind after reading 14 & 15) Eufie sort of out herself as PR early. And it's not difficult to guess which. I saw CP's post asking about set-up as a trap for players. It seemed like making a discussion, but it can also be used to role fish. And if everyone figured out that Eufie was a PR, then obviously mafia did too. Which makes it essential for the other PR to keep himself hidden. However what I noticed was that CP stayed close to Eufie, making her believe that he's the other PR. Getting someone to trust you is good, though this contradicts the need to hide himself. In other words, he's scum. (I probably couldn't correlate my previous sentence with my last, but I think this makes enough sense). Oh I see what you're saying, I think. Do you mean that you scumread CP because you think he's pretending to be a PR to gain trust while also going against the expectation that PRs should hide themselves?I'll need to go back and read that part of the thread again but too tired for now. I mean, a serial killer wincon is usually not good for town, and we should lynch him. But despite having killing ability, I don't think this TPR is hostile to town. At least if I guessed the right person, then his wincon/role is probably not serial killer. Sorry to disappoint you about my post ^^" And yes. That's what I meant about CP. |
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Ruu said: I don't think so. Not sure why there's no night kills, I doubt logic would forget a night kill. Or CP.I'm still catching up but I think CP is tpr, what do you guys think? Or they target the same person Eufie did. Which is why Eufie becomes a threat only Night 2. From the flow of his posts, I think CP is scum. I went back to check who first said Serial Killer because I thought it was coro. So coro said third party with killing ability, but it was CP who mentioned serial killer. Might seem overthinking, but I think town wouldn't speculate much about who the tpr is when he hits mafia. But CP had to think of who it is because he can be a threat to scum. Just a speculation on mindset, but anyway, no, I don't think CP is TPR. |
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CorruptedPurity said: Hypothetically, if there was a serial killer and if they didn't submit a night kill, nothing will happen. @Soren theoretically speaking, if the serial killer does not submit a name for the night kill, will it be randomized or not happen at all? |
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⭐ Vote Count 3.0 ⭐  Ruu (1): AbuHumaid CorruptedPurity (3): Oyasumi_Rosie, coromandel, aa-dono Oyasumi_Rosie (1): Ruu Players Not Voting (4): liz, Gruffin, CorruptedPurity, Floofs For a majority lynch to take place, 5 votes on one player is required. Votes will be locked if this is achieved. If a majority lynch is not achieved, a plurality lynch will take place, meaning whoever has the highest votes will get lynched. 🌙 Time Until Day 3 Ends 🌙 |
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| I like my vote. When CP started to ask people about the setup, I thought he was a Bulletproof Townie. But now that Eufie flipped Jailkeeper, he has to be scum imo. If he was town, he'd be either a Vanilla Townie or the Cop. I highly doubt CP as the Cop would ask such a question the way he did - because he hinted to being a PR himself, and that's the last thing you want to do when you're the Cop - you'd make yourself a target for scum. And why would you want to ask people's roles as a Vanilla Townie? Makes no sense either. So he's either mafia or TPR with a killing ability. |
coromandel said: With that killing ability though, he would be much more useful. Out of the two which is more likely you think?I like my vote. When CP started to ask people about the setup, I thought he was a Bulletproof Townie. But now that Eufie flipped Jailkeeper, he has to be scum imo. If he was town, he'd be either a Vanilla Townie or the Cop. I highly doubt CP as the Cop would ask such a question the way he did - because he hinted to being a PR himself, and that's the last thing you want to do when you're the Cop - you'd make yourself a target for scum. And why would you want to ask people's roles as a Vanilla Townie? Makes no sense either. So he's either mafia or TPR with a killing ability. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: coromandel said: With that killing ability though, he would be much more useful. Out of the two which is more likely you think?I like my vote. When CP started to ask people about the setup, I thought he was a Bulletproof Townie. But now that Eufie flipped Jailkeeper, he has to be scum imo. If he was town, he'd be either a Vanilla Townie or the Cop. I highly doubt CP as the Cop would ask such a question the way he did - because he hinted to being a PR himself, and that's the last thing you want to do when you're the Cop - you'd make yourself a target for scum. And why would you want to ask people's roles as a Vanilla Townie? Makes no sense either. So he's either mafia or TPR with a killing ability. Hm.. first of all, not every third party killing role is bad, but if it's something like a Serial Killer I wouldn't want to cooperate with them. Their win condition is to eliminate everyone else, so they can't be trusted. CP was talking about a Serial Killer even though we don't know which TPR is in play. So that could mean he's the SK and it was a slip. But he could also be mafia, and maybe I'm reading too much into this one post. Or he's trying to hide behind the TPR claim, to avoid being lynched? (The more I think about it the more possibilities pop up in my head >.>) Either way, his behavior isn't giving me any town vibes considering Eufie's flip. /edit: spelling |
coromandelApr 21, 2017 1:00 PM
aa-dono said: Can you go into detail on these reads? I like you to walk me through the Abu/Rosie/Coro reads so I can go back and look for myself.Hnnn, my vote this phase would go either stay on CP or change to Ruu. I tried to look at VCs and interactions and I don't see how Abu, Rosie or coro could be scum. Floops is due to content. As for liz, not really sure what I think of her. Seems to be a concerned town but then again I did that in my first game too (I was scum) :P So I'm a bit wary. I don't have any townvibe from Gruffin, but I also don't have any scumvibes from her. I kind of agree with you on liz; she seems townie tonally, but I wouldn't be surprised if she or Floofs magically flipped mafia in the end. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Any chance you could give me a reads list? I think it's possible you're town this game because of that logic vote, but I'm still really shaky on you behaviorally. With that killing ability though, he would be much more useful. Out of the two which is more likely you think? |
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| @coromandel Do you know aa-dono's meta? I'm currently blanking on her because I don't know what place that mechanical entry would come from and knowing a little background may be of some use. |
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Gruffin said: lol I understand.... I will give it my best shot.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Any chance you could give me a reads list? I think it's possible you're town this game because of that logic vote, but I'm still really shaky on you behaviorally. With that killing ability though, he would be much more useful. Out of the two which is more likely you think? Now that I am really thinking about it, its weird that a SK won't kill first night, so it must have been a newbie right? I am keeping my vote on CP even if there is a change he is the TPR right now, because I think it is more likely that he is scum. |
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Gruffin said: Floofs said: Sorry for the late response; missed this in the chaos.This was my same thought on Ruu as well. I don't know if the fact that they missed jailkeeper as a role could also be a slip up or just forgetfulness as they stated. Is this matrix the same matrix that is used in ms and is it something that has been used for awhile? I wouldn’t be surprised if this matrix has been used in previous games, but I’ve mostly seen custom-built setups by the hosts. It sounds like a case of forgetfulness to me because jailkeeper isn’t as common of a role as a doctor is. They’re functionally similar too, with jailkeeper acting as a doctor with an added roleblocking ability. I though that too, but after looking through post I noticed Ruu brought up the role here. Ruu said: Eufie said: Ahh I see XD ok :) so for example.. 1-Shot Town Jailkeeper is different from Town Jailkeeper isnt it? So what I mean is.... there is possibility that CP is 100% town or 100% scum hehe.. like I dont see him to be grey aka something that I couldnt be sure.. but Im into 100% town for him.. yes basically if it says "Town Jailkeeper" the role works every night - but if it says "1-shot" that means you only got one chance. |
| Rosie is it safe for me to assume from the way you worded your post that these are all gut-based? The one that jumps out at me is your read on Ruu. What about her is town? Tone? Contribution? Her reasoning? Oyasumi_Rosie said: Eh. There's like a ton of other possibilities to explain it like their target getting jailed or if they're limited in their kills in some way so I'd rather not speculate that the no-kill was a result of experience. Especially since there's probably clear instructions in the role PM like the other night actions we've seen and, well, that's kind of setting up a class divide when we really have no clue what caused it.Now that I am really thinking about it, its weird that a SK won't kill first night, so it must have been a newbie right? I am keeping my vote on CP even if there is a change he is the TPR right now, because I think it is more likely that he is scum. |
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| Eh. CP hasn't checked in yet... Well uh. Reads list update, I guess? Maybe town?: {Rosie/Liz/dono/Floofs} Who's left: {CP/Coro/Ruu/Abu} Yeah idk. Literally everyone in my maybe town pile would be null/very slight townlean in a normal game because of how easy it is to mimic their types of posts as mafia and logic's interactions weren't all that telling, but handing them a townread is all I can do to get some sort of grasp on the gamestate when it's so passive/lurky. I'm even half-tempted to townread Coro because she seems care at least a little about figuring things out, but...That's kind of what I did for logic and he flipped scum. Siiiiiiigh |
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