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I really get what Sandy is saying. Looking at it from a distance it does seem that Lana is manipulating and “managing” you until she sees your reactions to her incredibly irresponsible decisions (that let’s face it, she knows exactly what she is doing) and she will ALWAYS go back to the lifestyle. And she is not above cheating and hiding it from you-completely separate from the lifestyle, it seems.
I say good luck as this has the very real potential of moving way past the “fantasy” and hotwife/cuckold aspect into involving children. And with all the DNA stuff out there now it WILL come back to haunt you both.
Oh and just a thought on her not wanting photos “out there” on the web, when she gladly did video while having sex and being paraded by her past boyfriend for his friends to gawk at. You mentioned that you and she trusted that nobody would record???? You can’t really believe that young, horny “frat bro” types would keep that promise could you?
Just some thoughts. I do wish you the best, Spector that children are involved.

W. Thanks for the absolutely amazing update. Loved hearing about Lana cumming with his finger in her ass, can imagine her tight ass tightening against his finger as she came and her juices flowing down his cock at the same time.

I believe you mentioned about some rimming on your original update? Any further info on that?

Hey, no doubt you can guess what one of my kinks is? Haha

Subject of growing things… haven’t had the chance to explore growing in cold weather. I normally start my seeds in the winter weather under a propagator. Starts them off and gets ahead of the season slightly, but can’t get too far ahead, as most things get too big to keep indoors for too long.


I normally start dedigging the beds January and getting them ready for the summer season. March/april can look to start the earlier varieties of things.

Then the summer, I don’t need to worry too much. Just make sure I don’t plant anything too late, where the frost comes and kills it off before it gets the chance to fruit.

I mentioned before, but I want to look into a heated greenhouse next year, get some good all year growing going on then.

Back to the subject… I don’t believe it will be her last time, she and you just get too hot for it. Your life has changed a lot the past year and a half with the baby, but both of your horny roots are embedded deep within.

Have you two ever discussed the cheating angle again? Where she can cheat as long as she discloses it within a certain period?

Would be interesting to see how long she could last before she gets the itch.

Great to hear about your amazing love life recently btw. Makes asking all these questions so much easier knowing you’re both in such a great spot relationship wise.

Are you two back to using condoms for now then?

Hi W,
Loving the events your kindly sharing with your OHW friends ... just wondering if Lana had the chance to text Tyler as planned, and if she did, what kind of response she got?

W770

I first thought that I would send you a PM. But then I decided to write on the thread so that people with vast experiences in the LS can weigh in..People who have seen different outcomes of the LS - good and bad.

Lana is different when she is with a bull vis a vis what she is like "99% of the time" you say.

I suggest that your feeling is coming from the fact that post Shawn, Lana hasn't had the opportunity to be with a man on a regular basis.

When Shawn was a neighbor, you do remember that the 99% thing was on the other foot? Her liaison with him took up most of the time and emotions and schedules of her life.. and hence your life?

You remember that was the time when L talk flowed freely and they professed their love for each other all the time?

So that 99% thing is contingent on which other man is around and the decisive factors are convenience & opportunity, rather than it being necessarily a tiny fringe thing in her life per se.

You are OK with Lana resuming regular texting with Tyler, a man who gave her the best sex in her life, since he lives far away.

You remember that Shawn too lived far away, on the west coast and she made it possible to visit him there... where she was used at his wlll? Very hot stuff no doubt- but they had actually decided to become an item together as BF/GF?
With the social aspect of her being seen as his GF already ok in his circle?

Lana and Shawn were actually working out how they could make it work long distance?

Given this background, would it be wise on your part to let this communication flow freely between her and Tyler- her best sex partner till now? A man who is not just about great sex but also great at other relationship things- like funny talk and stuff. A man who provided her a "complete man-woman experience" in those 2 days?

W770 you do realise that when Lana is with another man, she is not yours at that time? Neither is she this relationship's (you +she) or this household's during such times.

Would it be better if you express these empirical facts to her now and suggest that she stops communicating with Tyler?

She did decide to "swear off" the LS. Can one keep deriving pleasure from something, in whatever form (texting for e.g., and maybe video calls soon?) and not go back to it whole hog at some point? Is that how it works with de-addiction and rehabs?

Think it over.

The fear and jealousy in some replies, while culturally understandable, do a disservice to the name of cuckold. Though I suppose it’s up to each person to determine the dynamic in their relationship, I believe at its core this lifestyle is about submitting to her pleasure, enjoying the journey of completely unleashing your wife, your queen, so that she can bask in her desires, have all her cake and eat it to, and feel completely secure the entire time knowing you are there smiling, ready to hold her and show her that everything is alright. That commitment and desire to serve her is the key to unlocking her sexual prowess, without which you don’t get what you want either. It’s an unbreakable bond of love, trust and lust, for those proud cuckolds able to hold up their end.
She’s been afraid, I suspect, of how her husband will react—that fear is there because of cultural programming and his reservations—want to know what your queen really wants? Let your fear go—be the wind under her wings.

Early on I used to think, “how can I get her to…”. Only later did I realize it’s not her who needs to let go, to grow, but me.

Bart77 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:49 pm

This is pure speculation - or maybe not, given Adam’s past reactions and behavior - but if Tyler had actually impregnated Lana and Adam found out, do you think with his massive ego he would feel almost…entitled (?) to have the opportunity to knock Lana up the next time?

I'm not really sure. He did have a giant competitive ego but I'm assuming his serious girlfriend has changed him a bit so who knows if he still has that side to him.

Coolcalm wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:42 pm

I really get what Sandy is saying. Looking at it from a distance it does seem that Lana is manipulating and “managing” you until she sees your reactions to her incredibly irresponsible decisions (that let’s face it, she knows exactly what she is doing) and she will ALWAYS go back to the lifestyle. And she is not above cheating and hiding it from you-completely separate from the lifestyle, it seems.
I say good luck as this has the very real potential of moving way past the “fantasy” and hotwife/cuckold aspect into involving children. And with all the DNA stuff out there now it WILL come back to haunt you both.
Oh and just a thought on her not wanting photos “out there” on the web, when she gladly did video while having sex and being paraded by her past boyfriend for his friends to gawk at. You mentioned that you and she trusted that nobody would record???? You can’t really believe that young, horny “frat bro” types would keep that promise could you?
Just some thoughts. I do wish you the best, Spector that children are involved.

I'm going to say something that I'm fully aware of how it really comes off as supremely naive, which is that Lana sincerely trusts the guys whom she allowed to take pictures and videos of her. And to all of their credit, none of them have at the very least threatened her or me about putting any of the videos online. Low bar, I know. At the very most, it has only been Adam that has used those recordings to taunt me, but that has since stopped since his life has apparently changed.

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:58 pm

W. Thanks for the absolutely amazing update. Loved hearing about Lana cumming with his finger in her ass, can imagine her tight ass tightening against his finger as she came and her juices flowing down his cock at the same time.

I believe you mentioned about some rimming on your original update? Any further info on that?

Hey, no doubt you can guess what one of my kinks is? Haha

I actually haven't followed up with her regarding the rimming stuff, so it hasn't really come up. We've been really busy with life since my last post so it really hasn't come up.

GuruTravelMonkey wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:42 pm

Are you two back to using condoms for now then?

We are not. Our position is basically that we will make love without a condom, and if she gets pregnant, than she gets pregnant and we'll be prepared for the second baby.

PeterG wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:30 pm

Hi W,
Loving the events your kindly sharing with your OHW friends ... just wondering if Lana had the chance to text Tyler as planned, and if she did, what kind of response she got?

She had plans to but since then, we've both been incredibly busy with work and life that texting Tyler back hasn't been too high on the priority list.

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:39 pm

W770

I first thought that I would send you a PM. But then I decided to write on the thread so that people with vast experiences in the LS can weigh in..People who have seen different outcomes of the LS - good and bad.

Lana is different when she is with a bull vis a vis what she is like "99% of the time" you say.

I suggest that your feeling is coming from the fact that post Shawn, Lana hasn't had the opportunity to be with a man on a regular basis.

When Shawn was a neighbor, you do remember that the 99% thing was on the other foot? Her liaison with him took up most of the time and emotions and schedules of her life.. and hence your life?

You remember that was the time when L talk flowed freely and they professed their love for each other all the time?

So that 99% thing is contingent on which other man is around and the decisive factors are convenience & opportunity, rather than it being necessarily a tiny fringe thing in her life per se.

You are OK with Lana resuming regular texting with Tyler, a man who gave her the best sex in her life, since he lives far away.

You remember that Shawn too lived far away, on the west coast and she made it possible to visit him there... where she was used at his wlll? Very hot stuff no doubt- but they had actually decided to become an item together as BF/GF?
With the social aspect of her being seen as his GF already ok in his circle?

Lana and Shawn were actually working out how they could make it work long distance?

Given this background, would it be wise on your part to let this communication flow freely between her and Tyler- her best sex partner till now? A man who is not just about great sex but also great at other relationship things- like funny talk and stuff. A man who provided her a "complete man-woman experience" in those 2 days?

W770 you do realise that when Lana is with another man, she is not yours at that time? Neither is she this relationship's (you +she) or this household's during such times.

Would it be better if you express these empirical facts to her now and suggest that she stops communicating with Tyler?

She did decide to "swear off" the LS. Can one keep deriving pleasure from something, in whatever form (texting for e.g., and maybe video calls soon?) and not go back to it whole hog at some point? Is that how it works with de-addiction and rehabs?

Think it over.

It's funny that you drew the comparison of Tyler to Shawn and how distance played a part in how we viewed their placement in our lives. We actually drew the same comparison as well, and while you do make a lot of valid points that carry a lot of truth, it ultimately is not an issue as she has no plans to go out to Texas to be with Tyler and she never had the connection to him that she did with Shawn. Wish Shawn, she had several weeks to build a rapport, and with Tyler, it truly was a one night stand. So there really is no looming threat to our marriage because Tyler has given her the best sex she's had in recent memory.

GuruTravelMonkey wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:22 am

The fear and jealousy in some replies, while culturally understandable, do a disservice to the name of cuckold. Though I suppose it’s up to each person to determine the dynamic in their relationship, I believe at its core this lifestyle is about submitting to her pleasure, enjoying the journey of completely unleashing your wife, your queen, so that she can bask in her desires, have all her cake and eat it to, and feel completely secure the entire time knowing you are there smiling, ready to hold her and show her that everything is alright. That commitment and desire to serve her is the key to unlocking her sexual prowess, without which you don’t get what you want either. It’s an unbreakable bond of love, trust and lust, for those proud cuckolds able to hold up their end.
She’s been afraid, I suspect, of how her husband will react—that fear is there because of cultural programming and his reservations—want to know what your queen really wants? Let your fear go—be the wind under her wings.

Early on I used to think, “how can I get her to…”. Only later did I realize it’s not her who needs to let go, to grow, but me.

I actually was a very jealous person for years when Lana and I started dating, and after a while, I realized that I could no longer carry this feeling into our relationship as it brought a lot of negativity into our marriage and I would make her feel guilty for the guys she's been with in the past. So I found a way to basically channel that same energy into feeling aroused by the same things that I would get jealous about, which was a net positive to our marriage as that looming negativity was no longer there.

Update: Nothing new regarding us and this lifestyle lately. We've been really inundated with work lately, and the baby is turning more and more nocturnal by the day, which is getting really hard on Lana especially, since she's the one that stays up later with the baby. And since work has been unforgiving lately, she hasn't had the time to reach out to Tyler. In fact, we've only made love once since the last I updated. She asked me what I wanted to hear and randomly, I wanted to hear about an older story that she's told me before, of when she was in college and cheated on her boyfriend on Spring Break. She tried her best not to go too far with the guy, and told him that as long as they were to just masturbate in front of each other, it wouldn't count as cheating, however, a minute into this, she put him in her mouth and swallowed his cum. A few months later, she drove up to meet him at his apartment and slept with him that night while his roommates listened on the other side of the door to the sounds of her cumming on his cock. She also tells me that he was able to get his cock hard again right after she swallowed his load, as he threw her on his bed right after and a minute later, was guiding his cock into her pussy. She told me that he looked like a Ken doll but with dark hair and that he was the first guy that was ever make her cum through intercourse. It's one of my favorite stories and I never last long when she gets to the part about how his roommates were all gathered in the living room listening to her being a slut.

Don’t worry, she’ll come through at some point telling you how she lied to you and she’ll manipulate you into believing her. You’ll buy into it and on you go until you have at least 1 child who isn’t yours.
Sounds great.

Thanks for the update - love that you two are doing so well.
That is a hot story too - what a fun one to share as you two have sex.
Enjoy the danger sex with her too - I remember those days of maybe we will make a baby/maybe we won't - it was great!

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:39 pm

W770

I first thought that I would send you a PM. But then I decided to write on the thread so that people with vast experiences in the LS can weigh in..People who have seen different outcomes of the LS - good and bad.

Lana is different when she is with a bull vis a vis what she is like "99% of the time" you say.

I suggest that your feeling is coming from the fact that post Shawn, Lana hasn't had the opportunity to be with a man on a regular basis.

When Shawn was a neighbor, you do remember that the 99% thing was on the other foot? Her liaison with him took up most of the time and emotions and schedules of her life.. and hence your life?

You remember that was the time when L talk flowed freely and they professed their love for each other all the time?

So that 99% thing is contingent on which other man is around and the decisive factors are convenience & opportunity, rather than it being necessarily a tiny fringe thing in her life per se.

You are OK with Lana resuming regular texting with Tyler, a man who gave her the best sex in her life, since he lives far away.

You remember that Shawn too lived far away, on the west coast and she made it possible to visit him there... where she was used at his wlll? Very hot stuff no doubt- but they had actually decided to become an item together as BF/GF?
With the social aspect of her being seen as his GF already ok in his circle?

Lana and Shawn were actually working out how they could make it work long distance?

Given this background, would it be wise on your part to let this communication flow freely between her and Tyler- her best sex partner till now? A man who is not just about great sex but also great at other relationship things- like funny talk and stuff. A man who provided her a "complete man-woman experience" in those 2 days?

W770 you do realise that when Lana is with another man, she is not yours at that time? Neither is she this relationship's (you +she) or this household's during such times.

Would it be better if you express these empirical facts to her now and suggest that she stops communicating with Tyler?

She did decide to "swear off" the LS. Can one keep deriving pleasure from something, in whatever form (texting for e.g., and maybe video calls soon?) and not go back to it whole hog at some point? Is that how it works with de-addiction and rehabs?

Think it over.

It's funny that you drew the comparison of Tyler to Shawn and how distance played a part in how we viewed their placement in our lives. We actually drew the same comparison as well, and while you do make a lot of valid points that carry a lot of truth, it ultimately is not an issue as she has no plans to go out to Texas to be with Tyler and she never had the connection to him that she did with Shawn. Wish Shawn, she had several weeks to build a rapport, and with Tyler, it truly was a one night stand. So there really is no looming threat to our marriage because Tyler has given her the best sex she's had in recent memory.
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As long as you are OK with it. You are an intelligent person who has seen different shades of her with different guys.

Just pointing out that Lana didn't start with that great connection with Shawn. It developed. It started with just good sex.

She has no plans to go to Texas. But Tyler? Can he fly down? The lure of cheating, married pussy, a new mother.. Who is struggling between her commitment to hubby and the out of the world sex provided by him?

That ego rush.. that male competitive challenge? Once texting starts, the message which goes is that the gorgeous "cheating" wife is starting to lose her inner struggle.

Then the heavy wooing starts over texts. The video calls certainly. That will become Lana's new go to thing for a sexual blast.

Then if he takes it to his head to come down? The rapport building starts.

Rogueuser1 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:10 pm

Thanks for the update - love that you two are doing so well.
That is a hot story too - what a fun one to share as you two have sex.
Enjoy the danger sex with her too - I remember those days of maybe we will make a baby/maybe we won't - it was great!

Thank you. Yeah it's one of my favorites. The first time she told me that story, it was slightly different in that she mentioned how one of his roommates came into the room to grab a phone charger and ended up just watching them fuck for a few minutes. She said she felt really naughty, not only because she basically drove up to this guy's place for sex, but because she was letting his roommate watch as she bounced on this guy's cock.

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:53 pm

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:39 pm

W770

I first thought that I would send you a PM. But then I decided to write on the thread so that people with vast experiences in the LS can weigh in..People who have seen different outcomes of the LS - good and bad.

Lana is different when she is with a bull vis a vis what she is like "99% of the time" you say.

I suggest that your feeling is coming from the fact that post Shawn, Lana hasn't had the opportunity to be with a man on a regular basis.

When Shawn was a neighbor, you do remember that the 99% thing was on the other foot? Her liaison with him took up most of the time and emotions and schedules of her life.. and hence your life?

You remember that was the time when L talk flowed freely and they professed their love for each other all the time?

So that 99% thing is contingent on which other man is around and the decisive factors are convenience & opportunity, rather than it being necessarily a tiny fringe thing in her life per se.

You are OK with Lana resuming regular texting with Tyler, a man who gave her the best sex in her life, since he lives far away.

You remember that Shawn too lived far away, on the west coast and she made it possible to visit him there... where she was used at his wlll? Very hot stuff no doubt- but they had actually decided to become an item together as BF/GF?
With the social aspect of her being seen as his GF already ok in his circle?

Lana and Shawn were actually working out how they could make it work long distance?

Given this background, would it be wise on your part to let this communication flow freely between her and Tyler- her best sex partner till now? A man who is not just about great sex but also great at other relationship things- like funny talk and stuff. A man who provided her a "complete man-woman experience" in those 2 days?

W770 you do realise that when Lana is with another man, she is not yours at that time? Neither is she this relationship's (you +she) or this household's during such times.

Would it be better if you express these empirical facts to her now and suggest that she stops communicating with Tyler?

She did decide to "swear off" the LS. Can one keep deriving pleasure from something, in whatever form (texting for e.g., and maybe video calls soon?) and not go back to it whole hog at some point? Is that how it works with de-addiction and rehabs?

Think it over.

It's funny that you drew the comparison of Tyler to Shawn and how distance played a part in how we viewed their placement in our lives. We actually drew the same comparison as well, and while you do make a lot of valid points that carry a lot of truth, it ultimately is not an issue as she has no plans to go out to Texas to be with Tyler and she never had the connection to him that she did with Shawn. Wish Shawn, she had several weeks to build a rapport, and with Tyler, it truly was a one night stand. So there really is no looming threat to our marriage because Tyler has given her the best sex she's had in recent memory.

As long as you are OK with it. You are an intelligent person who has seen different shades of her with different guys.

Just pointing out that Lana didn't start with that great connection with Shawn. It developed. It started with just good sex.

She has no plans to go to Texas. But Tyler? Can he fly down? The lure of cheating, married pussy, a new mother.. Who is struggling between her commitment to hubby and the out of the world sex provided by him?

That ego rush.. that male competitive challenge? Once texting starts, the message which goes is that the gorgeous "cheating" wife is starting to lose her inner struggle.

Then the heavy wooing starts over texts. The video calls certainly. That will become Lana's new go to thing for a sexual blast.

Then if he takes it to his head to come down? The rapport building starts.
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You're right about a lot of that and I'll expand on that in the update.

Update: So Lana finally had the chance yesterday to text Tyler back. He asked if get on a video call but because she was in the middle of the work day, she said that she would try to find time later in the night to call him. After the baby went to sleep, and with me listening intently on the other side of the room, Lana got on a video call with Tyler. Maybe it was because of our experiences with Shawn and Adam, but I reasonably assumed that Tyler would be expecting a video call so they could masturbate together. But I was entirely wrong, and he spent the first half of the call asking if she was okay, if she was still feeling guilty, and how he's thought about her and the night they spent together every day since he left Florida. He also asked if there was a chance that he was a dad, and sounded a bit upset that when Lana told him that he wasn't. The rest of the call was spent with them updating each other on their lives, a lot of joking around, and that was really about it. There was never any suggestion made for her to take off her top or anything to that end, and he ended the call by telling her that he really missed her, but understands if she can't come and see him given her busy life.

Afterwards, Lana and I made love, while she closed her eyes and told me all about how amazing Tyler was in bed, how he fucked her from behind while caressing her breasts, how he leaned back while in this position and told her to bounce her ass on his cock, how he made love better than me, etc. When I let her know that I was about to cum, Lana's breathing increased in speed as she pulled me in closer, telling me, "Fuck, I want him so bad, baby....." At that moment, she started rubbing her clit and made herself cum, obviously thinking of Tyler as I unloaded into her.

I asked her this morning if she wanted to actually try and work something out about seeing Tyler again she said no, and that it was just nice catching up with him and fantasizing of him, and then she confessed that she understands how her decision making isn't the best when she's in the moment and that she doesn't want to make any stupid mistakes again like she did when she let him take her with his bare cock.

So that's about all that's new with us lately. One of Lana's friends is having a birthday party this weekend and Cara will be there with her new male friend. I can't tell if she blames us for the breakdown of her marriage, but it never seemed like her and Cory were a good fit, and perhaps the 4-some with Shawn and Eric exacerbated some underlying problems that already existed before our involvement.

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:55 am

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

It might be a slow game, but it was honestly pretty refreshing and unexpected that he was really just curious as to her life and wanted to talk to her again. He also seemed genuinely curious about how she was and if she was still feeling guilty. He mentioned that he would feel horrible if she was still carrying that weight of "cheating" on me, but that it was understandable that a beautiful woman like her needed to let loose and have a night of fun, especially considering my inadequacies.

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:49 am

Rogueuser1 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:10 pm

Thanks for the update - love that you two are doing so well.
That is a hot story too - what a fun one to share as you two have sex.
Enjoy the danger sex with her too - I remember those days of maybe we will make a baby/maybe we won't - it was great!

Thank you. Yeah it's one of my favorites. The first time she told me that story, it was slightly different in that she mentioned how one of his roommates came into the room to grab a phone charger and ended up just watching them fuck for a few minutes. She said she felt really naughty, not only because she basically drove up to this guy's place for sex, but because she was letting his roommate watch as she bounced on this guy's cock.

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:53 pm

sandy691196 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:39 pm

W770

I first thought that I would send you a PM. But then I decided to write on the thread so that people with vast experiences in the LS can weigh in..People who have seen different outcomes of the LS - good and bad.

Lana is different when she is with a bull vis a vis what she is like "99% of the time" you say.

I suggest that your feeling is coming from the fact that post Shawn, Lana hasn't had the opportunity to be with a man on a regular basis.

When Shawn was a neighbor, you do remember that the 99% thing was on the other foot? Her liaison with him took up most of the time and emotions and schedules of her life.. and hence your life?

You remember that was the time when L talk flowed freely and they professed their love for each other all the time?

So that 99% thing is contingent on which other man is around and the decisive factors are convenience & opportunity, rather than it being necessarily a tiny fringe thing in her life per se.

You are OK with Lana resuming regular texting with Tyler, a man who gave her the best sex in her life, since he lives far away.

You remember that Shawn too lived far away, on the west coast and she made it possible to visit him there... where she was used at his wlll? Very hot stuff no doubt- but they had actually decided to become an item together as BF/GF?
With the social aspect of her being seen as his GF already ok in his circle?

Lana and Shawn were actually working out how they could make it work long distance?

Given this background, would it be wise on your part to let this communication flow freely between her and Tyler- her best sex partner till now? A man who is not just about great sex but also great at other relationship things- like funny talk and stuff. A man who provided her a "complete man-woman experience" in those 2 days?

W770 you do realise that when Lana is with another man, she is not yours at that time? Neither is she this relationship's (you +she) or this household's during such times.

Would it be better if you express these empirical facts to her now and suggest that she stops communicating with Tyler?

She did decide to "swear off" the LS. Can one keep deriving pleasure from something, in whatever form (texting for e.g., and maybe video calls soon?) and not go back to it whole hog at some point? Is that how it works with de-addiction and rehabs?

Think it over.

It's funny that you drew the comparison of Tyler to Shawn and how distance played a part in how we viewed their placement in our lives. We actually drew the same comparison as well, and while you do make a lot of valid points that carry a lot of truth, it ultimately is not an issue as she has no plans to go out to Texas to be with Tyler and she never had the connection to him that she did with Shawn. Wish Shawn, she had several weeks to build a rapport, and with Tyler, it truly was a one night stand. So there really is no looming threat to our marriage because Tyler has given her the best sex she's had in recent memory.

As long as you are OK with it. You are an intelligent person who has seen different shades of her with different guys.

Just pointing out that Lana didn't start with that great connection with Shawn. It developed. It started with just good sex.

She has no plans to go to Texas. But Tyler? Can he fly down? The lure of cheating, married pussy, a new mother.. Who is struggling between her commitment to hubby and the out of the world sex provided by him?

That ego rush.. that male competitive challenge? Once texting starts, the message which goes is that the gorgeous "cheating" wife is starting to lose her inner struggle.

Then the heavy wooing starts over texts. The video calls certainly. That will become Lana's new go to thing for a sexual blast.

Then if he takes it to his head to come down? The rapport building starts.

You're right about a lot of that and I'll expand on that in the update.

Update: So Lana finally had the chance yesterday to text Tyler back. He asked if get on a video call but because she was in the middle of the work day, she said that she would try to find time later in the night to call him. After the baby went to sleep, and with me listening intently on the other side of the room, Lana got on a video call with Tyler. Maybe it was because of our experiences with Shawn and Adam, but I reasonably assumed that Tyler would be expecting a video call so they could masturbate together. But I was entirely wrong, and he spent the first half of the call asking if she was okay, if she was still feeling guilty, and how he's thought about her and the night they spent together every day since he left Florida. He also asked if there was a chance that he was a dad, and sounded a bit upset that when Lana told him that he wasn't. The rest of the call was spent with them updating each other on their lives, a lot of joking around, and that was really about it. There was never any suggestion made for her to take off her top or anything to that end, and he ended the call by telling her that he really missed her, but understands if she can't come and see him given her busy life.

Afterwards, Lana and I made love, while she closed her eyes and told me all about how amazing Tyler was in bed, how he fucked her from behind while caressing her breasts, how he leaned back while in this position and told her to bounce her ass on his cock, how he made love better than me, etc. When I let her know that I was about to cum, Lana's breathing increased in speed as she pulled me in closer, telling me, "Fuck, I want him so bad, baby....." At that moment, she started rubbing her clit and made herself cum, obviously thinking of Tyler as I unloaded into her.

I asked her this morning if she wanted to actually try and work something out about seeing Tyler again she said no, and that it was just nice catching up with him and fantasizing of him, and then she confessed that she understands how her decision making isn't the best when she's in the moment and that she doesn't want to make any stupid mistakes again like she did when she let him take her with his bare cock.

So that's about all that's new with us lately. One of Lana's friends is having a birthday party this weekend and Cara will be there with her new male friend. I can't tell if she blames us for the breakdown of her marriage, but it never seemed like her and Cory were a good fit, and perhaps the 4-some with Shawn and Eric exacerbated some underlying problems that already existed before our involvement.
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W770
- I know Lana several times has begged off HWing wanting to "go straight", but i think over the course of time she will find the allure of a good cock or good fuck will be too much. It may ebb and flow. Perhaps drastically, but in the end I think she will at heart always be a HW.

Long Lurker 34 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:26 am

W770
- I know Lana several times has begged off HWing wanting to "go straight", but i think over the course of time she will find the allure of a good cock or good fuck will be too much. It may ebb and flow. Perhaps drastically, but in the end I think she will at heart always be a HW.

You may be right, but as of now, it's all hypothetical.

Update: Lana came out of the office earlier to make herself a coffee and play with the baby, when she mentioned that Tyler and her have been messaging a lot this morning. She let me read the conversation and again, there was nothing in the way of what came as expected with her correspondence with Shawn and Adam with their suggestive language at trying to get her to send them naked pictures, but rather it was all really sincere and it seems like he really just wants to get to know her more. It's likely a long game he's playing, but I can appreciate that he's not trying to be the hyper aggressive archetype that Lana had become accustomed to, especially with Adam.

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Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:03 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:55 am

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

It might be a slow game, but it was honestly pretty refreshing and unexpected that he was really just curious as to her life and wanted to talk to her again. He also seemed genuinely curious about how she was and if she was still feeling guilty. He mentioned that he would feel horrible if she was still carrying that weight of "cheating" on me, but that it was understandable that a beautiful woman like her needed to let loose and have a night of fun, especially considering my inadequacies.

Sorry, but what inadequacies do you refer to with yourself?

I mean, you both sound like you’ve got a pretty solid relationship and a good sex life.

Remember, this is all exciting and will probably always peak her interest above the mundane day to day life you might have at times (the word mundane isn’t an insult, just a word to describe doing the same routines that life forces us to do).

Your relationship sounds more exciting than 99% of the worlds and is something you should be proud of.

That said, don’t hope they get on cam again and do a bit more? Maybe time to setup that hidden camera again?

Be careful with the long game, sounds like he could want more than just her pussy (and I don’t mean her ass as well!)

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:14 am

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:03 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:55 am

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

It might be a slow game, but it was honestly pretty refreshing and unexpected that he was really just curious as to her life and wanted to talk to her again. He also seemed genuinely curious about how she was and if she was still feeling guilty. He mentioned that he would feel horrible if she was still carrying that weight of "cheating" on me, but that it was understandable that a beautiful woman like her needed to let loose and have a night of fun, especially considering my inadequacies.

Sorry, but what inadequacies do you refer to with yourself?

I mean, you both sound like you’ve got a pretty solid relationship and a good sex life.

Remember, this is all exciting and will probably always peak her interest above the mundane day to day life you might have at times (the word mundane isn’t an insult, just a word to describe doing the same routines that life forces us to do).

Your relationship sounds more exciting than 99% of the worlds and is something you should be proud of.

That said, don’t hope they get on cam again and do a bit more? Maybe time to setup that hidden camera again?

Be careful with the long game, sounds like he could want more than just her pussy (and I don’t mean her ass as well!)

Well she had mentioned to Tyler that I was unable to make her cum, last very long in bed, and also that I lacked the size that he had. She knows it turns me on to revel in that sort of humiliation, so it wasn't a case of her sharing details that I wanted her to keep private.

And no offense taken, of you using the word "mundane." We really do have a routine based life and in a way, sex with other men had started to feel almost "expected" for Lana, as she told me that Shawn and Adam would basically be the same sort of lover, obsessed with dominating her, whereas she truly felt liberated to have fun sex with Tyler. I'll give an example - when she was on top, Tyler had said something to the effect of, "look at you, a natural cowgirl riding her cowboy. Ride that cock, girl!" - which allowed her to open up a side of her where she was able to be more playful as she bounced up and down on his cock. In fact, while I listened to them interact on the phone last night, I would say that they do have a very playful dynamic, not in the sense that Tyler is immature, bur rather, very innocent and carefree.

It is nice that Lana has relaxed her apprehensions and is having sexy conversations with Tyler ...
Who knows, maybe she'll go cowboy riding in Texas sometime soon. Maybe for a weekend, a nice mini break from being all-mom.

Glad to see he is playing the long game and isn't being a prick about it. Hopefully he continues to play well - he just might get another chance (though hopefully not until she is safely knocked up).

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:24 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:14 am

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:03 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:55 am

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

It might be a slow game, but it was honestly pretty refreshing and unexpected that he was really just curious as to her life and wanted to talk to her again. He also seemed genuinely curious about how she was and if she was still feeling guilty. He mentioned that he would feel horrible if she was still carrying that weight of "cheating" on me, but that it was understandable that a beautiful woman like her needed to let loose and have a night of fun, especially considering my inadequacies.

Sorry, but what inadequacies do you refer to with yourself?

I mean, you both sound like you’ve got a pretty solid relationship and a good sex life.

Remember, this is all exciting and will probably always peak her interest above the mundane day to day life you might have at times (the word mundane isn’t an insult, just a word to describe doing the same routines that life forces us to do).

Your relationship sounds more exciting than 99% of the worlds and is something you should be proud of.

That said, don’t hope they get on cam again and do a bit more? Maybe time to setup that hidden camera again?

Be careful with the long game, sounds like he could want more than just her pussy (and I don’t mean her ass as well!)

And no offense taken, of you using the word "mundane." We really do have a routine based life and in a way, sex with other men had started to feel almost "expected" for Lana, as she told me that Shawn and Adam would basically be the same sort of lover, obsessed with dominating her, whereas she truly felt liberated to have fun sex with Tyler. I'll give an example - when she was on top, Tyler had said something to the effect of, "look at you, a natural cowgirl riding her cowboy. Ride that cock, girl!" - which allowed her to open up a side of her where she was able to be more playful as she bounced up and down on his cock. In fact, while I listened to them interact on the phone last night, I would say that they do have a very playful dynamic, not in the sense that Tyler is immature, bur rather, very innocent and carefree.

Isn't that all the more reason to be careful?.
Not just his long game... but the way he is positioning himself. He isn't coming across as a super sex provider who caters to kinks.
He is branding himself as a "whole man".. getting Lana to drop her guilt for cheating, has expressed displeasure that he didn't knock Lana up.
Generally trying to get Lana interested in a classic "affair".. where she falls for him in toto..not just for kinky sex.

sn't that all the more reason to be careful?.
Not just his long game... but the way he is positioning himself. He isn't coming across as a super sex provider who caters to kinks.
He is branding himself as a "whole man".. getting Lana to drop her guilt for cheating, has expressed displeasure that he didn't knock Lana up.
Generally trying to get Lana interested in a classic "affair".. where she falls for him in toto..not just for kinky sex.

From all we've got to know of w770, I think that's sorta the point - being on the edge of that cliff is a powerful thrill and Lana has always kept her balance at the last moment. The nearer the edge, the stronger the thrill. The more she practises, the better she gets at holding her balance.

Lana has NEVER kept her balance. On the contrary Lana always gets disbalanced when the chips are down, in the moment.
Circumstances, fate and the other party's life factors, bailed this couple out every time in the past.

With Shawn, Lana fell in love, travelled the distance to the west coast and decided to make their thing a formal BF-GF affair. Fate intervened after that.

With Adam, he of all people withdrew from the relationship because he fell hard for a girl and wanted an honest relationship! Imagine, even Adam!

With Tyler, Lana tried her best to get pregnant and failed due to natural causes.

Lana is only "balanced" when away from the arms of whatever wonderful lover she has at the moment.

Hypothetically, the ONLY balanced LS play probable in Lana's case is with a bull who is himself in a committed relationship which he doesn't wanna quit. So he is either playing with his cuck queen's consent or he is cheating.

Given Lana's preference for much younger men who are energetic and hung (this bit cant be predicted with any man beforehand) and going by her latest crush, the man is cool and suave (like Tyler), one would say that a younger professional male, who, she knows through work, will be the best bet.

She would know whether he is married/attached or not. He would be kinda awed with her power and maturity at work.. kinda under her thumb.. maybe she is mentoring him? She can control the direction of the relationship, while he controls her in bed.

Safe binge. NO male in present day US will do lose talking, over drinks, about a workplace affair. If something goes wrong, it will be his fault. And his incentive to behave is 100% solid.. he gets to have an affair with a beautiful, desirable, successful - senior woman. .

W770 will get his thrill out of seeing the seduction and the sizzling off work stuff.

Everyone wins, no harm - no foul.

Nope, no idea what you're going on about.

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:24 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:14 am

w770 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:03 am

Luigical1931 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:55 am

Sounds like the start of something? Playing a slow game to getting to watch her cum on camera and eventually go out and see him.

Think just make sure if it does begin to develop, that she gets back on birth control, as like she has said, she can get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.

Sounds like you’re enjoying the ride!

It might be a slow game, but it was honestly pretty refreshing and unexpected that he was really just curious as to her life and wanted to talk to her again. He also seemed genuinely curious about how she was and if she was still feeling guilty. He mentioned that he would feel horrible if she was still carrying that weight of "cheating" on me, but that it was understandable that a beautiful woman like her needed to let loose and have a night of fun, especially considering my inadequacies.

Sorry, but what inadequacies do you refer to with yourself?

I mean, you both sound like you’ve got a pretty solid relationship and a good sex life.

Remember, this is all exciting and will probably always peak her interest above the mundane day to day life you might have at times (the word mundane isn’t an insult, just a word to describe doing the same routines that life forces us to do).

Your relationship sounds more exciting than 99% of the worlds and is something you should be proud of.

That said, don’t hope they get on cam again and do a bit more? Maybe time to setup that hidden camera again?

Be careful with the long game, sounds like he could want more than just her pussy (and I don’t mean her ass as well!)

Well she had mentioned to Tyler that I was unable to make her cum, last very long in bed, and also that I lacked the size that he had. She knows it turns me on to revel in that sort of humiliation, so it wasn't a case of her sharing details that I wanted her to keep private.

And no offense taken, of you using the word "mundane." We really do have a routine based life and in a way, sex with other men had started to feel almost "expected" for Lana, as she told me that Shawn and Adam would basically be the same sort of lover, obsessed with dominating her, whereas she truly felt liberated to have fun sex with Tyler. I'll give an example - when she was on top, Tyler had said something to the effect of, "look at you, a natural cowgirl riding her cowboy. Ride that cock, girl!" - which allowed her to open up a side of her where she was able to be more playful as she bounced up and down on his cock. In fact, while I listened to them interact on the phone last night, I would say that they do have a very playful dynamic, not in the sense that Tyler is immature, bur rather, very innocent and carefree.

How do you feel about that different dynamic? A different kind of humiliation compared to the dominant type she has had previously?

I know it’s best all around that Tyler didn’t fuck a baby into your wife that night, but is there some part of you - and Lana, too - that was turned on by the thought of her body changing as her pregnancy from another man progressed before your eyes - her breasts slowly growing as they filled with milk, her facing starting to glow, etc?